The latest wrinkle in the writer-agent war: A state law widely seen as outdated


The battle has animated vigorous discussion of the 1978 statute, which requires anyone who procures work or negotiates employment contracts for clients to be a licensed agent. Although the statute was initially intended to protect the weak, some experts say it now gives agents a captive client base, enthroning them in positions of impregnable power.

“It has been clear that the Legislature should involve itself in determining whether or not the law makes sense,” said Michael Plonsker, a Los Angeles entertainment attorney who has litigated cases involving the Talent Agencies Act but isn’t involved in the current dispute.

Agents have this monopoly,” said another entertainment attorney who requested anonymity because of professional relationships with the agencies. “[The law’s] application has expanded beyond its original function.

Hollywood’s big four agencies — Endeavor, CAA, UTA and ICM Partners — have vehemently defended their position, saying in a strongly worded letter to the WGA this month that they would consider any attempt by the guild to delegate agent duties to other parties to be “unfair and unlawful competition.”

“We demand the immediate retraction of the WGA’s purported ‘delegation,’” the letter stated.

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What we are seeing is the democratization of the entertainment industry and the end of the big talent agencies gross exploitation of clients. SAG-AFTRA should follow WGA’s example 😒…

The latest wrinkle in the writer-agent war: A state law widely seen as outdated

Cant he even afford clothes now im tired of his blue throusers and veja soo-veganish shooes also he wore that bloody jacket like?? 1000 times ( in venice, the tbt insta party post, emmys) Dont he has a stylist? Cant he even pay them? Cant he even buy some new clothes? Shoes? I guess all the money goes to zero for her out-of-thrash spring summer collection clothes and weird clown-like make-up

Team Soso bled him dry and I’d count his ‘stylist’ among them. Once upon a time Joe Woolfe styled Benedict reasonably well but now? He doesn’t GAF because he locked BC in as a client. How? He can blackmail him with the fakenancy alone! Good thing the public is finding out about what’s been going on…

Do you think Karon knows too much for Ben to let her go despite her being not terribly good at her job? Do you think she’d ever be malicious enough to “out” him for a price? I’ve never known quite what to think of her since Zero came on the scene, and she walked her into the theatre in her orange dress!

gatorfisch:

Honestly? I have no idea what to think about Karon. I was highly suspicious of her for the Hamlet Press Night thing…but she may have been trying to help, just doing a shitty job of it.

Don’t get me started on Kowron 🙄…Ben needs an entirely new team. The one he has now is absolutely awful and disloyal. I have a question for the lot of them: Who the fuck is the celebrity client here? That’s right: Benedict. Why do you enable SoFail and pressure him to cooperate with her to his detriment instead of shutting her down? Y’all even style him like shit…

Isn’t Kim Jong Un the fan who stalked him to his hotel in China after the grand prix and a few days after she stalked him to a London con? I’m sure she’d be delighted to know how her dearest benedict calls her in her back but the nannies will pretend that they can scientifically prove you or Gator sent you the message and that Benedict is absolutely not capable of using such words about one of his faithfullest and rich stan.

I’m overwhelmed by the irony when I consider the fact that UTA etc put a fauxmance noose around BC’s neck in order to get rid of Uberstans like her. Instead their brilyunt plan had the exact opposite effect, they clung more than ever and sided with his worst enemy. The added bonus is that he’s now wasting away into nothing! I mean I’d be creeped out by Janet’s degree of devotion too but I’d take her to the side and politely talk to her about it instead of passive aggressively calling her names behind her back. He did the same to Piers Morgan only to have it blow up in his face…bad form Benedict 🧐.

Mrs Holmes? More like Miss Wilkes!

Goddamn you’re thirsty, haven’t you realized that no one GAF about your scarce ‘achievements’? NO ONE. How much money have you wasted republishing that blurb 4 times now? I’ve never seen any celeb SO do anything that pathetic. And please STFU about Sherlock, you were instrumental in ruining that show by pitting Ben against Martin, trashing Andrew and pissing Mark Gatiss off. Why, he wouldn’t even hire you to play a cadaver! You just can’t tolerate Ben getting any publicity, can you? Even if it’s for his work! You need to get locked up, that’s how fucking crazy you are. Tara WTF are you doing, you dumb cow? Keep this shit up and no one will want to hire you either…

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Mrs Holmes? More like Miss Wilkes!

Goddamn you’re thirsty, haven’t you realized that no one GAF about your scarce ‘achievements’? NO ONE. How much money have you wasted republishing that blurb 4 times now? I’ve never seen any celeb SO do anything that pathetic. And please STFU about Sherlock, you were instrumental in ruining that show by pitting Ben against Martin, trashing Andrew and pissing Mark Gatiss off. Why, he wouldn’t even hire you to play a cadaver! You just can’t tolerate Ben getting any publicity, can you? Even if it’s for his work! You need to get locked up, that’s how fucking crazy you are. Tara WTF are you doing, you dumb cow? Keep this shit up and no one will want to hire you either…

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Aha, I got the answer myself thanks to google and other skeptics thinking her name was Kara or Tara lol. It’s Tara Jones. She is an agent. Agents do not do PR, they are not involved in branding and don’t get paid unless the actor closes a deal. Publicists do PR (UTA has publicists as well). If she is there, some sort of new deal is involved. Could be SM-related, could be something Ben is signing onto outside of SM. We’ll likely know eventually.

gatorfisch:

Except we only see Tara when Zero is involved.

Talent Agents work in tandem with Managers, Public Relations firms and Publicists. I know Tracey, Tara, Karon etc. are going to do everything in their power to shirk responsibility for this fiasco but that won’t fly. Not anymore, everyone involved has to deal with this problem and fix it stat. We’ve seen a direct correlation with their presence, BC shilling the sham in lieu of his work and SoFail going rogue. At SDCC16, for example, the sudden shift in focus was so obvious that it was like a switch was flipped as soon as Tara showed up. That’s no coincidence and Adam Ackland only cares about SM. So much so in fact that we were told that he was instrumental in convincing BC to go back on his word and disobey Disney. This after the Rat spent a considerable amount time and resources trying to get BC out of his predicament in the safest way possible. Now, why would Adam be against that unless that put him at odds with UTA and Team Soso to a lesser extent? Shame on all of you, take that hot potato and choke on it!

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PS: Nice to see that UTA treats it’s peons in much the same way: “A good place to get your foot in the door, but I believe there are companies out there who actually value their employees. The pay sucks…most people leave within a year.” Also, WTF is up with y’all pushing Scientology on your clients? I’d really like to know more about that

Not trying to sound harsh, but that is some fishbowl effect right there over VFF. It’s not about him and her to anyone other than skeptics and nannies (and maybe some casual fans who aren’t interested in any films this year). There is a ton of coverage of the film premieres and their stars in mainstream media and on social media. Just the #venezia75 on Instagram has 18K posts, most of which are not BC/SH, and Google news is all premieres and movie RCs. (1/2)

gatorfisch:

Naturally, the sponsor is going to show their ambassador, but it’s been on social media where it belongs. Also, I’d say UTA is there because of SM, not because of BC personally (agents aren’t managers). UTA has a film department that helps smaller production companies negotiate deals and they’ve been pretty successful, helping to close films like “I, Tonya” and CBMYN, and also–yep–Ironbark. Given that Adam is also there, it’s clear SM had business at VFF. (2/2)

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I’m pretty sure the only reason all the coverage is on Social Media is because someone made sure Team Zero couldn’t get it put anywhere else. Everything you are saying is correct, but you are forgetting how quickly Zero will go rogue. Keeping her in check is like herding cats wired on catnip. It’s gonna be all hands on deck. There was no reason for her to be part of the watch promos. She’s just a spouse.

Is that you UTA? Excuses and blame-shifting don’t cut it. Most of your other clients are being repped well but your gross mismanagement of BC’s public image is a very noticeable exception. You helped broker a fauxmance that’s proven to be a PR disaster for everyone involved save a certain HW call girl. One that is unsalvageable given the severity of her EBDs and that needs to be terminated ASAP in order to prevent further harm to your actual client: BC. Not just irreparable damage to his career, his reputation and his finances but more importantly to his health. It’s obvious that Tara was too inexperienced to handle this situation and for four years we’ve seen nothing but damage control and heard nothing but cringe-worthy lies. Enough is enough, everyone in the industry knows it’s all BS. In fact, we were told as much by a PR person that was present at the 2015 Golden Globes. 

Think of the Skeptic community as a Market Research forum that offers feedback on what works and what doesn’t, in RT…for free. We are a diverse bunch, with a background in Marketing, Public Relations, Psychology, you name it. You may not be able to save face and that’s unfortunate but none of this would have happened if your agency had been more proactive from the get-go. If you are unable to step up to the challenge then I suggest you step aside and let the Rat do whatever it needs to. They won’t be doing a ‘Mickey Mouse Job’ of it either…

UKRAINE eh?

What did sources say about SH and HW’s connection to Ukraine, modern art and trafficking? A lot:

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“Look for any parties involving Russians, Ukrainians, Anti-Aids charities, galas involving the words “eye”, “vision”, “visionary ball”, “wink”, “red”, names like “hearts for life”. Global ring tied to AIDS foundations and billionaire Russians/Ukrainians. Also, Henry Boxer gallery, Wellcome Institute, Whitechapel Gallery… There was a movie that Weinstein made with Spielberg and Clinton funded by crony Victor Pinchuk In Ukraine. The group known as DEN (Geffen, Spielberg, Katzenberg) are criminals and the Ukrainian is a trafficker that ships kids with art from Donetsk to Los Angeles. You are right on the money with Weinstein.”

More on the Weinstein>Pinchuk>CF links here. Look into ‘Cradles of Hope’ and their ‘adoptions’ BTW… 

Pinchuk is on the Board of Trustees for MOCA. Remember Marina Abramovic’s mock cannibalistic Gala @ MOCA? Eloise Fornieles has also been compared to her many times. Reasons.

Of course, SH would try to push her BS via obscure blogs that Disney hasn’t ordered a blackout from yet. So far we’ve got one from Nigeria and another written for some obscure Ukrainian city

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Since their office is in the US, that ‘cooperation’ will be easier for them to get. I mean they took down Eloise’s Minnie Mouse vid fast. According to OK! Magazine Aniston has a kid like every other week but they are too reputable for Team Soso. Hey SoFail, you were just caught with a fanny pack under your dress! Focus on de-flating your previous fuckery before you really get it and that goes for you too UTA. Hey Tara, I know why y’all are abetting SoFail/Team Soso. From a London PR source:

“ A PR contracted relationship is usually devised by multiple parties – usually, it will be PR firm(s) either paid for by the individual(s) or by whoever is wanting to gain from their publicity that a relationship could achieve. Next comes the contract – yes, engagements, marriages, and children are written into some contracts. As are “fights”, as are “tabloid gossip” stories. Both sides agree on what stories can be published and cannot. Usually, the stories are alternating – one week one part of the coupling will get an article about something to do with X, the next the other way round etc. It’s very repetitive.“

No contract/s = no more money for you! Musn’t disappoint your dirty spook pals either…you don’t care if pushing your stupid script ruins and/or kills BC or his parents. In fact, your two-bit Agency should have been shut down after what you did to Carmen and the others. BC has to sue in order to get out without paying through the nose but he’s got plenty of reasons to get off Scott-free, let me tell you. You are trying to keep him in a fauxmance contract that gives y’all ‘permission’ to blackmail, rob and abuse him. Except it doesn’t because those are all serious crimes! We are also well aware that the Tate Mafia rabbit hole is part of it too but more on that later…

PS: Adam, we were told that Ben put you on Marvel’s payroll as his ‘Assistant’. You’ve even been paid to be a friend to him but that’s not what you are. Not at all.

Carmen Llywelyn vs. Scientology:

“Suddenly, my entire life got stolen out from under me. My entire support structure shattered. Nothing that I knew was ever the same. I lost Gay, Jason, and every friend and source of love I knew besides my family in Georgia, 3,000 miles away. I was completely on my own and not one of them cared. What I didn’t expect to happen was that Gay would get my agent at United Talent Agency to drop me. Or at least that’s what she told me in her disconnection letter I received two days after our phone call. So I had no way of even getting work. I was supposed to start over.”

Did I say they were vultures? More like hyenas:

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Carmen Llywelyn vs. Scientology:

“Suddenly, my entire life got stolen out from under me. My entire support structure shattered. Nothing that I knew was ever the same. I lost Gay, Jason, and every friend and source of love I knew besides my family in Georgia, 3,000 miles away. I was completely on my own and not one of them cared. What I didn’t expect to happen was that Gay would get my agent at United Talent Agency to drop me. Or at least that’s what she told me in her disconnection letter I received two days after our phone call. So I had no way of even getting work. I was supposed to start over.”

Did I say they were vultures? More like hyenas:

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Your industry feeds off of this mass delusion doesn’t it Scott? It fosters the illusion that celebrities and their handlers see consumers as fellow human beings. They don’t, they see people like stannies as a necessary annoyance. The sad truth is that most become thoroughly dishonest and self-serving as fame corrupts them. The media conglomerates they work for deliberately manipulate the perceptions and emotions of the public. They even create false “life narratives” (like the ShamWow) to generate buzz around their manufactured stars. Of course in BC’s case it didn’t work out as intended because they chose a disreputable and mentally unstable person as his fauxmance co-star. The relationship between BC’s fans and their hard earned money is, on the otherhand, quite real. No one likes being lied to and the public is getting wise to PR parlour tricks. Remember Einstein’s definition of insanity? It’s doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So my advice to everyone involved in this debacle is to change the script. If you don’t want criticism then it’s better to limit exposure…then again that goes against the very purpose of such arrangements! 

Your industry feeds off of this mass delusion doesn’t it Scott? It fosters the illusion that celebrities and their handlers see consumers as fellow human beings. They don’t, they see people like stannies as a necessary annoyance. The sad truth is that most become thoroughly dishonest and self-serving as fame corrupts them. The media conglomerates they work for deliberately manipulate the perceptions and emotions of the public. They even create false “life narratives” (like the ShamWow) to generate buzz around their manufactured stars. Of course in BC’s case it didn’t work out as intended because they chose a disreputable and mentally unstable person as his fauxmance co-star. The relationship between BC’s fans and their hard earned money is, on the otherhand, quite real. No one likes being lied to and the public is getting wise to PR parlour tricks. Remember Einstein’s definition of insanity? It’s doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So my advice to everyone involved in this debacle is to change the script. If you don’t want criticism then it’s better to limit exposure…then again that goes against the very purpose of such arrangements!